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		<title>Comment on OpenNMS vs Nagios by Vandebilt.com &#187; Monitoring applications</title>
		<link>http://www.rootdev.com/tech/opennms-vs-nagios#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Vandebilt.com &#187; Monitoring applications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on OpenNMS vs Nagios by skms</title>
		<link>http://www.rootdev.com/tech/opennms-vs-nagios#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>skms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the open source community needs to re-focus the way it engages it's audience (their market, in commercial terms).

We need businesses to support us. To have faith &#38; confidence in us as a community of experts - not as a bunch of geeks with a grudge. 

We need to polish our messages - not to go "corporate", but talk to them as peers. To engage in a dialog that they understand and feel welcomed by. 

With the support of the non-technical sides of the business - so we get more involved. Our status as trusted advisors that we *really* looking out for their interests - not to fleece them via quasi-legal lock-ins.

That requires us all to invest in learning how to present ourselves. A "commercial" &#38; a "community" website along side materials, webinars, demos and fully-enabled professional partner programmes to support the delivery of quality services - globally.

We need to compete head-to-head with HP, BMC, CA, EMC, IBM and the mid-tier too. We need to give those engineers that want to deploy our solutions the tools to be agents of change. They need business cases, support packages, structured professional services - they need the experience they receive from the traditional proprietary channel. 

That's a long way from where we are today - but at least the software is already there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the open source community needs to re-focus the way it engages it&#8217;s audience (their market, in commercial terms).</p>
<p>We need businesses to support us. To have faith &amp; confidence in us as a community of experts - not as a bunch of geeks with a grudge. </p>
<p>We need to polish our messages - not to go &#8220;corporate&#8221;, but talk to them as peers. To engage in a dialog that they understand and feel welcomed by. </p>
<p>With the support of the non-technical sides of the business - so we get more involved. Our status as trusted advisors that we *really* looking out for their interests - not to fleece them via quasi-legal lock-ins.</p>
<p>That requires us all to invest in learning how to present ourselves. A &#8220;commercial&#8221; &amp; a &#8220;community&#8221; website along side materials, webinars, demos and fully-enabled professional partner programmes to support the delivery of quality services - globally.</p>
<p>We need to compete head-to-head with HP, BMC, CA, EMC, IBM and the mid-tier too. We need to give those engineers that want to deploy our solutions the tools to be agents of change. They need business cases, support packages, structured professional services - they need the experience they receive from the traditional proprietary channel. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a long way from where we are today - but at least the software is already there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on OpenNMS vs Nagios by skms</title>
		<link>http://www.rootdev.com/tech/opennms-vs-nagios#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>skms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely agree with your comments about the OpenNMS group.

I'm hoping to have the pleasure to collaborate with them on an interesting project. They have worked enormously hard to deliver a great software product and develop their expertise.

We've chosen to work with OpenNMS and invest in further development because of their product - and their quality service. Well done Tarus, Jeff, David and the rest of the crew.

Of course, a little marketing polish wouldn't hurt - as long as you understand it to mean -&#62; engaging in a meaningful two-dialog with everyone involved in the process - budget holders, managers, engineers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree with your comments about the OpenNMS group.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping to have the pleasure to collaborate with them on an interesting project. They have worked enormously hard to deliver a great software product and develop their expertise.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve chosen to work with OpenNMS and invest in further development because of their product - and their quality service. Well done Tarus, Jeff, David and the rest of the crew.</p>
<p>Of course, a little marketing polish wouldn&#8217;t hurt - as long as you understand it to mean -&gt; engaging in a meaningful two-dialog with everyone involved in the process - budget holders, managers, engineers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on OpenNMS vs Nagios by indigo</title>
		<link>http://www.rootdev.com/tech/opennms-vs-nagios#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>indigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I´m absolute your opinion. I have strong experience with Nagios and now with OpenNMS. I have decided to do my Open-Source Projects with OpenNMS for the same reasons in your posting. Additional to this posting, it is really hard to maintain a large Nagios-installation. In Nagios there are absolutly no procedures and processes which help you to bring your monitoring up-to-date. All changes in the network must be done manually. The discovery possibilities in OpenNMS (capability-scan and discovery) works really good for that. And last not least, Nagios can do absolutly nothing with external commands like SNMP-Traps and Syslogs. The implementations with snmptt and so on --&#62; !!! ROFL !!! :) The same with notification for that --&#62; Netways-Implementation for notify SNMP-Traps --&#62; ROFL too :) Look at http://www.netways.de/uploads/media/Martin.Fuerstenau_SNMP.Traphandling.fuer.Nagios.pdf
than you see why this sucks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I´m absolute your opinion. I have strong experience with Nagios and now with OpenNMS. I have decided to do my Open-Source Projects with OpenNMS for the same reasons in your posting. Additional to this posting, it is really hard to maintain a large Nagios-installation. In Nagios there are absolutly no procedures and processes which help you to bring your monitoring up-to-date. All changes in the network must be done manually. The discovery possibilities in OpenNMS (capability-scan and discovery) works really good for that. And last not least, Nagios can do absolutly nothing with external commands like SNMP-Traps and Syslogs. The implementations with snmptt and so on &#8211;&gt; !!! ROFL !!! <img src='http://www.rootdev.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> The same with notification for that &#8211;&gt; Netways-Implementation for notify SNMP-Traps &#8211;&gt; ROFL too <img src='http://www.rootdev.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Look at <a href="http://www.netways.de/uploads/media/Martin.Fuerstenau_SNMP.Traphandling.fuer.Nagios.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.netways.de/uploads/media/Martin.Fuerstenau_SNMP.Traphandling.fuer.Nagios.pdf</a><br />
than you see why this sucks <img src='http://www.rootdev.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on OpenNMS vs Nagios by RangerRick</title>
		<link>http://www.rootdev.com/tech/opennms-vs-nagios#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>RangerRick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a bunch, Craig!  I've written 3 different comments in response to this and deleted them before hitting "Submit" because (ugh) I end up sounding like a sales guy.  ;)

Just wanted to know your take on OpenNMS is appreciated, and I'm glad you "get it" -- this is exactly the kind of experience we're trying to make sure all of our customers and users get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a bunch, Craig!  I&#8217;ve written 3 different comments in response to this and deleted them before hitting &#8220;Submit&#8221; because (ugh) I end up sounding like a sales guy.  <img src='http://www.rootdev.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just wanted to know your take on OpenNMS is appreciated, and I&#8217;m glad you &#8220;get it&#8221; &#8212; this is exactly the kind of experience we&#8217;re trying to make sure all of our customers and users get.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What colour is black? by Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.rootdev.com/misc/what-colour-is-black#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, just noticed that the image was hardlinked to my dev server. D'oh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, just noticed that the image was hardlinked to my dev server. D&#8217;oh!</p>
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